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		<description><![CDATA[Dear All
this is just to inform you that the IASB issued today an International Financial Reporting Standard (IFRS) designed for use by small and medium-sized entities (SMEs).
You can download all the related documents 
- Standards
- Basis of Conclusions
- Illustrative Financial Statements Presentation and Disclosure Checklist
here (you need to register at IASB website): 
http://www.iasb.org/IFRS+for+SMEs/IFRS+for+SMEs+and+related+material/IFRS+for+SMEs+and+related+material.htm
In addition you can purchase a printed copy of IFRS for SMEs here:
http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/RegisterMyInterest
Have a good joining
Kind Regards
Simone Salvi





		
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear All<br />
this is just to inform you that the IASB issued today an International Financial Reporting Standard (IFRS) designed for use by small and medium-sized entities (SMEs).</p>
<p>You can download all the related documents </p>
<p>- Standards<br />
- Basis of Conclusions<br />
- Illustrative Financial Statements Presentation and Disclosure Checklist</p>
<p>here (you need to register at IASB website): </p>
<p>http://www.iasb.org/IFRS+for+SMEs/IFRS+for+SMEs+and+related+material/IFRS+for+SMEs+and+related+material.htm</p>
<p>In addition you can purchase a printed copy of IFRS for SMEs here:</p>
<p>http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/RegisterMyInterest</p>
<p>Have a good joining</p>
<p>Kind Regards</p>
<p>Simone Salvi</p>


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		<title>Date of comercial production</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear all,
can anyone please guide me if there are any guidelines as to establish
date of commercial production in a manufacturing concern in IFRS.
thanks and regards
deepak


Hi Deepak,
I assume you are inferring to either intangible assets.
There is no specific guidance as to this date.
However, it is not unusual to assume the date of commercial production
to be the date (month) in which the first commercial orders are
processed in relation to the intangible.


Hi Alan
My query is regarding trial run expenditures in a manufactuing
concern. Till when can the trial run expenditures be capitalised in a
manufacturing ...


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear all,</p>
<p>can anyone please guide me if there are any guidelines as to establish<br />
date of commercial production in a manufacturing concern in IFRS.</p>
<p>thanks and regards</p>
<p>deepak</p>
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<p>Hi Deepak,</p>
<p>I assume you are inferring to either intangible assets.</p>
<p>There is no specific guidance as to this date.</p>
<p>However, it is not unusual to assume the date of commercial production<br />
to be the date (month) in which the first commercial orders are<br />
processed in relation to the intangible.</p>
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<p>Hi Alan</p>
<p>My query is regarding trial run expenditures in a manufactuing<br />
concern. Till when can the trial run expenditures be capitalised in a<br />
manufacturing concern. Are there any specific guidelines for same<br />
under ifrs ?</p>
<p>deepak</p>
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<p>Hi Deepak,The operative term used under IAS 16 is &#8220;capable of operating in the<br />
manner intended by management&#8221;.Under cost recognition IAS 16 states the following:16 The cost of an item of property, plant and equipment comprises:(a) its purchase price, including import duties and<br />
non-refundable purchase taxes, after deducting trade discounts and<br />
rebates.(b) any costs directly attributable to bringing the asset to<br />
the location and condition necessary for it to be capable of operating<br />
in the manner intended by management.(c) the initial estimate of the costs of dismantling and<br />
removing the item and restoring the site on which it is located, the<br />
obligation for which an entity incurs either when the item is acquired<br />
or as a consequence of having used the item during a particular period<br />
for purposes other than to produce inventories during that period.17 Examples of directly attributable costs are:(a) costs of employee benefits (as defined in IAS 19 Employee<br />
Benefits) arising directly from the construction or acquisition of the<br />
item of property, plant and equipment;(b) costs of site preparation;(c) initial delivery and handling costs;(d) installation and assembly costs;(e) costs of testing whether the asset is functioning<br />
properly, after deducting the net proceeds from selling any items<br />
produced while bringing the asset to that location and condition (such<br />
as samples produced when testing equipment); and(f) professional fees.20 Recognition of costs in the carrying amount of an item of<br />
property, plant and equipment ceases when the item is in the location<br />
and condition necessary for it to be capable of operating in the<br />
manner intended by management. Therefore, costs incurred in using or<br />
redeploying an item are not included in the carrying amount of that<br />
item. For example, the following costs are not included in the<br />
carrying amount of an item of property, plant and equipment:(a) costs incurred while an item capable of operating in the<br />
manner intended by management has yet to be brought into use or is<br />
operated at less than full capacity;(b) initial operating losses, such as those incurred while<br />
demand for the item&#8217;s output builds up; and(c) costs of relocating or reorganising part or all of an<br />
entity&#8217;s operations.There is no strict definition, but a guidance per se. So, justify your<br />
insistence on capitalization by documenting how it fits under para 16<br />
and 17, and not para 20.Usually, if your IQA department says that the machine is good to go,<br />
that&#8217;s when you cease capitalizing costs into the machine and begin<br />
depreciation.Also note that trial runs should refer to testing on the P&amp;M and not<br />
product trial runs, which do not qualify for capitalization under IAS<br />
16, but may qualify under IAS 38 as development cost.Neither are customer qualification expenses since the P&amp;M should<br />
theoretically be &#8220;capable of operating in the manner intended by<br />
management&#8221; before you accept a project (unless you are mad).Regards,Alan</p>


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Simone SalviAccounting standards: Commission adopts consolidated text of IFRS
applicable in the EUThe European Commission has adopted on Monday 3 November the
consolidated text of all International Financial Reporting Standards
(IFRS) in force in the European Union (EU). The consolidated version
puts together all IFRS endorsed to date, including the latest
amendments endorsed on 15.10.2008. It will enable stakeholders to
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear allPlease find attached a news from European Commission about IFRS.<br />
In addition you&#8217;ll find a link to a pdf file related to consolidated<br />
text of IFRS.Have a good joining.<br />
Regards<br />
Simone SalviAccounting standards: Commission adopts consolidated text of IFRS<br />
applicable in the EUThe European Commission has adopted on Monday 3 November the<br />
consolidated text of all International Financial Reporting Standards<br />
(IFRS) in force in the European Union (EU). The consolidated version<br />
puts together all IFRS endorsed to date, including the latest<br />
amendments endorsed on 15.10.2008. It will enable stakeholders to<br />
refer to only one single legal document. This is an important element<br />
of the Commission simplification programme aimed at reducing the<br />
administrative burden on EU businesses.Internal Market and Services Commissioner Charlie McCreevy said: &#8220;The<br />
consolidated text will make a practical difference to IFRS users in<br />
the EU, who can now refer to one single document in their own<br />
language, and to EU businesses, whose administrative burdens will be<br />
reduced. It is an important part of the Commission&#8217;s simplification<br />
programme and an important practical step in making EU legislation<br />
accessible to businesses and citizens.&#8221;The consolidated text, which is available in all official EU<br />
languages, replaces 18 earlier Regulations. All IFRS endorsed from 29<br />
September 2003 to 15 October 2008 are now published in this single<br />
document. Furthermore, all cross-references have been updated. At the<br />
same time the Commission has carried out a complete overhaul of all<br />
linguistic versions which ensures their high quality and consistency<br />
both with existing EU legislation and with the official texts of the<br />
International Accounting Standards Board (IASB).The new Regulation repeals and replaces Regulation No. 1725/2003 of 29<br />
September 2003 and all subsequent modifications up to 15 October 2008.<br />
Member States unanimously supported its adoption. The consolidated<br />
text is available at the following addresses<a href="http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/accounting/ias_en.htm">http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/accounting/ias_en.htm</a>Click here for pdf file in english<a href="http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/accounting/docs/ias/20081104_ifrs_consolidated_en.pdf">http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/accounting/docs/ias/20081104_ifrs_consolidated_en.pdf</a></p>


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Can you share me the international auditing standard document. Thanks


Danella,I double checked after the comment below, and I agree with Hemant. IAS 21.28 explicitly states that gains/losses on forex should be recognized in P&#38;L. The forex is not attributable to the asset but to the financial liability.http://www.ifac.org/IAASB/
My apologies for my earlier answer.
Regards,
Jeroen


 
 



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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: #1f497d;">Can you share me the international auditing standard document. Thanks</span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Danella,</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I double checked after the comment below, and I agree with Hemant. IAS 21.28 explicitly states that gains/losses on forex should be recognized in P&amp;L. The forex is not attributable to the asset but to the financial liability.</span><a href="http://www.ifac.org/IAASB/" target="_blank">http://www.ifac.org/IAASB/</a></p>
<p>My apologies for my earlier answer.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Jeroen</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any one please clarify me this&#8230;.
Hari


Hi Team,
Will any one clarify the difference between Exceptional Items &#38;
Extraordinary Items?
With reference to IFRS what is the disclosure policy for the both.
Thanks &#38; Regards,
Hari


Hi Hari,
to my understanding according to IAS 1 there was for several years the
possibility to show extraordinary items in the P+L (IAS 1.85). Since
2004 this seems to be no longer allowed according to Dr. David
Grünberger who is member in the Accounting Regulatory Committee in
Brussels which decides upon the endorsement of new IAS/IFRS standards
within the EU. According to US-GAAP extraordinary items are ...


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="mobile-photo">Any one please clarify me this&#8230;.</p>
<p>Hari</p>
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<p>Hi Team,</p>
<p>Will any one clarify the difference between Exceptional Items &amp;<br />
Extraordinary Items?</p>
<p>With reference to IFRS what is the disclosure policy for the both.</p>
<p>Thanks &amp; Regards,</p>
<p>Hari</p>
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<p>Hi Hari,</p>
<p>to my understanding according to IAS 1 there was for several years the<br />
possibility to show extraordinary items in the P+L (IAS 1.85). Since<br />
2004 this seems to be no longer allowed according to Dr. David<br />
Grünberger who is member in the Accounting Regulatory Committee in<br />
Brussels which decides upon the endorsement of new IAS/IFRS standards<br />
within the EU. According to US-GAAP extraordinary items are to be<br />
shown in the P+L if they are unusual and infrequent items. Exceptional<br />
items seem to be only infrequent, i.e. non-recurring, but not unusual:</p>
<p>&#8220;Exceptional items</p>
<p>Exceptional items relate to material non-recurring items of</p>
<p>income and expense arising from circumstances such as:</p>
<p>- write-downs of inventories to net realizable value or of</p>
<p>property, plant and equipment to recoverable amount, as well</p>
<p>as reversals of such write-downs;</p>
<p>- restructurings of the activities of an entity;</p>
<p>- releases of provisions;</p>
<p>- disposals of property, plant and equipment;</p>
<p>- disposals of associates or other financial assets;</p>
<p>- discontinued operations;</p>
<p>- onerous contracts;</p>
<p>- litigation settlements.</p>
<p>To provide a better understanding of the underlying results of the</p>
<p>period, exceptional items are reported separately if the</p>
<p>aggregate amount of the specific event or project exceeds</p>
<p>€10 million.&#8221;</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.dsm.com/en_US/downloads/invest/annual_report_2007_en.pdf">http://www.dsm.com/en_US/downloads/invest/annual_report_2007_en.pdf</a></p>
<p>Please do not hesitate to ask if you have any questions.</p>
<p>Have a good day and I look forward to hearing from you!</p>
<p>Mit freundlichen Grüssen/ With kind regards</p>
<p>Interim Solutions</p>
<p>Oliver</p>
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Can someone advise us on tow different models for calculating share<br />
based mode and which one is most generally used and why.</p>
<p>Best regards</p>
<p>Vikas</p>
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<p>Vikas,</p>
<p>Can you please clarify further as to what you are looking for?</p>
<p>Zeeshan</p>
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>You are correct in your understanding that the concept of<br />
extraordinary items has been removed from IAS from 2005. It has been<br />
defined as any item resulting from an activity that is not ordinary<br />
activity of the company concerned.</p>
<p>This does not however mean that exceptional items cannot be disclosed<br />
separately.</p>
<p>IAS 1, Para 86, says that an entity can amend the statement of<br />
comprehensive income and include more line items to give a better<br />
understanding of the figures disclosed. However, materiality, nature<br />
and function of the items of income and expense should be used as<br />
guiding factor when deciding upon adding new line items.</p>
<p>The relevant para of IAS 1 are 86 and 87 and copied here;</p>
<p>86. When items of income and expense are material, their nature and<br />
amount shall be disclosed separately.</p>
<p>87. Circumstances that would give rise to the separate disclosure of<br />
items of income and expense include:</p>
<p>(a) write-downs of inventories to net realisable value or of property,<br />
plant and equipment to recoverable amount, as well as reversals of<br />
such write-downs;</p>
<p>(b) restructurings of the activities of an entity and reversals of any<br />
provisions for the costs of restructuring;</p>
<p>(c) disposals of items of property, plant and equipment;</p>
<p>(d) disposals of investments;</p>
<p>(e) discontinued operations;</p>
<p>(f) litigation settlements; and</p>
<p>(g) other reversals of provisions.</p>
<p>In simple terms, the term extra ordinary items is no more relevant any<br />
more. If other terms are used which are not already defined in IAS,<br />
such items should also be defined in the financial statements. As an<br />
example, attached are the 2006 accounts of Liberty International Plc<br />
in which exceptional items has been defined as follows;</p>
<p>Exceptional items</p>
<p>Exceptional items are those significant items</p>
<p>which are separately disclosed by virtue of their</p>
<p>size or incidence to enable a full understanding</p>
<p>of the group&#8217;s financial performance. Transactions</p>
<p>which may give rise to exceptional items are</p>
<p>principally gains or losses on disposal of</p>
<p>investments, subsidiaries and early termination</p>
<p>of debt instruments</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Zeeshan</p>
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<p>Hi Zeeshan,</p>
<p>I am interested in knowing, which are the two model used in<br />
calculating stock based payment and which is the preferred way in the<br />
service/ITes industry and why.</p>
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<p>Hi Vikas, hi Zeeshan,</p>
<p>You can find those informations in IFRS 2 and IAS 32. In general there<br />
is a vesting period when the specific employee has to work for the<br />
specific company. After this vesting period is over, on the vesting<br />
date, those stocks can be granted to this specific employee on the<br />
grant date. Normally the fair value of the stocks on the grant date<br />
has to be spread systematically throughout the vesting period and be<br />
expensed. Which plan for the stock based payment do you have? Did you<br />
already prepare an excel model for the excel spreadsheet you want to<br />
calculate with?</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Oliver</p>
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<p>Hi Oliver,</p>
<p>One related question, suppose I have granted a stock with a price of<br />
US$4.80 per share, now suppose valuation as on grant date is US$4.50,<br />
so where should company book this differential- as an Income?</p>
<p>Further if valuation on grant date is US$4.8 ( at par) then what<br />
would be the accouting treatment? Is it possible for you send me the<br />
text for these two standards.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Vikas</p>
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<p>hi,As per IAS 1 (revised) and IAS -8 extra ordinary items are no longer<br />
required to be reported separately . i.e these items no longer exist.AS PER IFRS-2 share based payments which are in nature of &#8220;equity<br />
settled transaction&#8221; ,which is your case , the transaction is to be<br />
recorded at &#8220;fair value on GRANT date ONLY ,and these are not<br />
required to be re measured, &#8221; which is $ 4.5 in your case so the<br />
question of recognizing income does not arise at all .SHARE BASED PAYMENTS ARE exclusively dealt with by IFRS-2 . this has<br />
been clarified by inserting explanations in IAS 19 so now IAS 19 is<br />
not applicable on share based payment also IAS 32/39 and IFRS 3<br />
exclusively provides that IAS 32/39 is not applicable to share based<br />
payment meaning there by these are not to be treated as liability<br />
under IAS 32/29/regards,rohit mansukhani(ACCA)</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Friend,
Please inform which website can give me detailed IFRS and IAS access
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Hi Hemant
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Friend,</p>
<p>Please inform which website can give me detailed IFRS and IAS access<br />
free of cost. Deloittee IAS PLUS gives summary.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Hemant</p>
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<p>Hi Hemant</p>
<p>For a summary of the scope of each Standard you may want to rely on<br />
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear All ,
can anyone help me with an urgent answer on the below question :
- If we purchase software licences for office programs like (
Microsoft , power point etc ). and we renew the same every year
do we need to capitalize this cost or expense it ( Please note that
i&#8217;m not talking about operation or accounting software&#8217;s ) I&#8217;m talking
about licences like Microsoft ( office software&#8217;s).
regards
Tony


Hi Tony,
General software costs should be expensed as they do not meet IAS 38
recognition criteria.
regards,
Aida


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear All ,<br />
can anyone help me with an urgent answer on the below question :</p>
<p>- If we purchase software licences for office programs like (<br />
Microsoft , power point etc ). and we renew the same every year</p>
<p>do we need to capitalize this cost or expense it ( Please note that<br />
i&#8217;m not talking about operation or accounting software&#8217;s ) I&#8217;m talking<br />
about licences like Microsoft ( office software&#8217;s).</p>
<p>regards</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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<p>Hi Tony,<br />
General software costs should be expensed as they do not meet IAS 38<br />
recognition criteria.</p>
<p>regards,<br />
Aida</p>
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<p>The cost of software license is an expense recognized in the income<br />
statement for the period it does cover. If for example starts in April<br />
and lasts for 1 year, it is recognized for 9/12 as expense in profit<br />
or loss. A. Dessanti</p>
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<p>The said cost has to be capitalize as per International Accountiong Standard 38.</p>
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<p>Dear Tony</p>
<p>The licensing cost is valid for one year and hence it needs to be<br />
expensed out within a year.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Ashish</p>
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<p>It will all depend on your capitalisation threshold limit i.e. there<br />
are companies which say above 5.000 USD do capitalise licenses but not<br />
personal computers which I think is bizarre</p>
<p>My personal take: I would only capitalise them if they are part of a<br />
major software purchase in other words if all those renewals you are<br />
talking about involve purchase of say Microsoft Vista for say 3 line<br />
functions then I would capitalise them BUT as I said above I have seen<br />
bizarre things</p>
<p>Nothing suprises me</p>
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<p>Hi Tony,</p>
<p>Only costs which gives you benefit over the period of years can be<br />
capitalized as license needs to be renewed each year so no<br />
capitalization is required just treat it as an expense.</p>
<p>Hopy the answer of the question.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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<p>Hi Tony</p>
<p>I think when you renew the licenses every year , you need to expense this cost.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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<p>Software licenses are cost and must not be capitalized, because these<br />
are not cost associated with the development of a software, hence<br />
these a cost incurred in a particular operating period</p>
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<p>I think there are two points to consider here;</p>
<p>1 One is what is the minimum amount to be capitalized as an asset as<br />
per the company policy;</p>
<p>2 If the amounts are more than the min threshold, i think these can<br />
be capitalized under IAS 38 and amortized till the license expires.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Zeeshan</p>
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<p>Right Zeeshan ! which is what I said right up frontNow let me expand<br />
upon my nothing surprises me with a 2006 IFRS example</p>
<p>I had this situation in 2006 when that company moved from US GAAP to<br />
IFRS in a NYSE listed company, the capitalisation limit was 1.000 USD<br />
but there were people capitalising everything in accordance with local<br />
GAAP tax rules</p>
<p>We switched to IFRS and as write offs did not want to be made the CFO<br />
re-invented the rule i.e. let us not capitalise below the tax level<br />
now that we are in IFRS &#8230;just to find out that the level diferred<br />
substantially in Italy to France, Switzerland, Austria&#8230;even recently<br />
Germany has allowed capitalising assets below 400 Euros. Why ? Because<br />
the tax authorities hate IFRS</p>
<p>Bottom line:</p>
<p>1. Capitalisation limit is the key and as I said above even in US GAAP<br />
I have had situations where corporate policies required software<br />
licences above 5k to be capitalised but not PCs no matter how many you<br />
bought</p>
<p>2. The second key concept is that software is only capitalisable if<br />
part of a major project (if such a capitalisation limit does not exist<br />
in the first place)</p>
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<p>sorry to hop in. . .</p>
<p>dear Jorge &amp; zeshan,</p>
<p>plz let me confirm that can we proceed against the industry practice<br />
or other prevailing GAAPs, if yes then it must be justifiable on sound<br />
grounds obviously. . . &amp; if the threshold limit is as low as 1.00 USD,<br />
then i think we must analyze the definition of asset too. . . said<br />
licence has age of not more than 12 year. . .</p>
<p>Dear Gorge, let me come to know, is its materiality of such<br />
significant nature that if we dont pay renewel fee we ll be reluctant<br />
to use the microsoft?? justifiable thing is that, if it is necessary<br />
to continue with the main cover then we will have to capitalize it<br />
upto its age. . .</p>
<p>your valued arguments will be appreciated. . .</p>
<p>Thanx &amp; b/regards,<br />
ammad</p>
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<p>AmmadTo simplify things for you: My first experience in a publicly traded<br />
company was UK GAAP in 1994 and our policy was clear: never ever<br />
capitalise software unless it is part of a major IT project. Yet we<br />
had issues country per country. As years went by in other companies<br />
the &#8220;solution&#8221; was the capitalisation rule.To expand upon1. Who has talked about proceeding against industry practice or prevailing GAAP?2. Who has put a threshold of just 1 USD ?3. All the answers were fine in as much expensing the licenses is the<br />
most logical solution (see my simplification above)4. My point from the beginning was the capitalisation limit and upon<br />
seeing Zeeshan&#8217;s answer I simply added a few examples. That was all.5. With regards to your latest comment if you rephrased it I could try<br />
to help you. If what you are saying is that the licenses are part of<br />
a major IT project (which you define &#8220;as major cover&#8221;) then it does<br />
fall into one of the initial comments I made: if they are part of a<br />
major IT project they can be capitalised</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m a CPA from the US. Is the ACCA something I should join? I&#8217;m a
member of the IMA and the AICPA in the US. Is ACCA some kind of
upstart or does anyone find it to add value to their careers and is it
recognized by global employers?
Thanks for the opinions, mostly just curious here.


Dear Justin,
ACCA is a British qualification mostly recognisted by European based
mutlinational corporations, British in particular. Please also consider
CIMA which is also Brtish qualification with more focus on management
accounting (controlling). With both qualifications you can take IFRS
path.
Please visit www.accaglobal.com ...


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="mobile-photo">I&#8217;m a CPA from the US. Is the ACCA something I should join? I&#8217;m a<br />
member of the IMA and the AICPA in the US. Is ACCA some kind of<br />
upstart or does anyone find it to add value to their careers and is it<br />
recognized by global employers?<br />
Thanks for the opinions, mostly just curious here.</p>
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<p>Dear Justin,</p>
<p>ACCA is a British qualification mostly recognisted by European based<br />
mutlinational corporations, British in particular. Please also consider<br />
CIMA which is also Brtish qualification with more focus on management<br />
accounting (controlling). With both qualifications you can take IFRS<br />
path.</p>
<p>Please visit <a href="http://www.accaglobal.com">www.accaglobal.com</a> or <a href="http://www.cimaglobal.com">www.cimaglobal.com</a> respecitvely<br />
for details.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Jakub</p>
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<p>Hello David,<br />
ACCA is an international Body. With the ongoing effort to<br />
internationalize accounting stardards, I would suggest that you join<br />
international bodies like the ACCA. For more details visit there website<br />
<a href="http://www.accaglobal.com">www.accaglobal.com</a> of email: <a href="mailto:infor@accaglobal.com">infor@accaglobal.com</a></p>
<p>Benaya</p>
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<p>Dear David Cook</p>
<p>If you have CPA in USA, there is no need to have ACCA, since AICPA and<br />
ACCA are professional accountancy body in the market.</p>
<p>Thanks and regards</p>
<p>Simon</p>
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<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>ACCA is the world&#8217;s largest accountancy body, started over 100 years<br />
ago and with over 100,000 members I believe (including myself). You<br />
need to take a number of exams in order to join which maybe not<br />
justifiable given that you are CPA already. I recommend taking ACCA&#8217;s<br />
Diploma in IFRS, which is one exam aimed to bring you on board with<br />
IFRS.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Aida</p>
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<p>David / Simon,</p>
<p>Even if you are a CPA in the US, it would be worthwhile to take<br />
atleast Certification if you want to get ahead in IFRS. Although,<br />
AICPA has not come out with any training material but they do mention<br />
that CPAs in the US would eventually have to prepare themselves. Below<br />
is an extract from their website -</p>
<p>&#8220;For the CPA profession, the use of IFRS by U.S. publicly held<br />
companies will create the need for effective training and education.<br />
Companies will use IFRS only if they and their auditors have been<br />
thoroughly trained, and if their investors and other users of their<br />
financial statements — such as analysts and rating agencies —<br />
understand IFRS as well. At the moment, most accountants in the<br />
United States are trained in U.S. GAAP, not IFRS. Most specialists,<br />
such as actuaries and valuation experts, who are engaged by management<br />
to assist in measuring certain assets and liabilities also are not<br />
taught IFRS. Consequently, all parties will need to undertake<br />
comprehensive training. Professional associations and industry groups<br />
will need to integrate IFRS into their training materials,<br />
publications, testing and certification programs. Colleges and<br />
universities will need to include IFRS in their curricula. If IFRS is<br />
accepted—and many think this is<br />
inevitable—as GAAP in the United States, it will be included in the<br />
Uniform CPA Examination.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that CPAs need to begin to prepare for the day in<br />
the not-so-distant future when the SEC could designate a date for<br />
voluntary, or even mandatory, adoption of IFRS by all U.S. public<br />
companies.&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope the above information would be beneficial for all CPAs in the US.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Puneet</p>
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<p>hi,<br />
i think u should visit the ACCA website n go to the students<br />
section&#8230;therein u can look into the exemptions that u get for ACCA<br />
papers as a qualified CPA&#8230;<br />
given that u r a member of IMA n AICPA u would need to sit 4 only a<br />
few papers in order to become a member of ACCA&#8230;<br />
try it<br />
just adds on to ur profile&#8230;</p>
<p>2007 data relating to the body is as follows:</p>
<p>Number of students : 325,606<br />
Number of members : 122,426</p>
<p>u may also find a few articles related to the ACCA n AICPA joint<br />
venture prog which is in the pipeline&#8230;</p>
<p>cheers !!!</p>
<p>raj.</p>
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<p>Dear Puneet</p>
<p>I am a fellow member of ACCA, assoicate member of ICAEW, I view one<br />
professional qualification is sufficient however if you wish to have<br />
ACCA title, this is only a label.</p>
<p>Thanks and regards</p>
<p>Simon</p>
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<p>I agree with Aida. Dip IFRS would be the required examination<br />
administered by ACCA every June and December for CPAs in US.<br />
Certification in IFRS also administered by ACCA would give you an<br />
immediate lead into IFRS. Professionals who do not want to venture<br />
into IFRS immediately would do good if they register and give the<br />
DipIFRS.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Puneet</p>
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<p>Adding to the comments on IFRS courses/certification &#8211; I understand the US<br />
AICPA&#8217;s are/have recently added IFRS courses to USGAAP courses that they<br />
have available. Just to clarify, I do not mean a &#8216;IFRS&#8217; CPA qualification<br />
in itself, but IFRS modules for those already qualified as CPAs. I suggest<br />
you look at their website to get the exact details.</p>
<p>In relation to ACCA, my understanding is that they offer a qualification<br />
that provides international recognition and, without any intention of<br />
minimising the qualification, I believe this has been particularly<br />
beneficial for accountants in countries who do not have a well developed CPA<br />
or Chartered Accountant qualifications/programmes, (or other accounting<br />
qualifications where they perhaps currently do not have reciprocity with say<br />
US AICPA, Australia/Wales ICCA etc)</p>
<p>regards</p>
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<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>Thanks for all the information on these courses. I have joined a<br />
mutinational bank couple of years back handling the IFRS reporting. I<br />
have working knowledge in IFRS but have not been very confident in<br />
this subject as I have not gone through any course (though i have<br />
attended various training).</p>
<p>I have browsed through the ACCA site and their courses in IFRS. I<br />
just need a few clarifications if someone can provide me.</p>
<p>1. I am CA from India, so is it advisable and beneficial for me to<br />
take one of these courses in IFRS?<br />
2. Which one is more beneficiary, ACCA or ICAEW. (Also which one is<br />
more cost effective)?<br />
3. ACCA provides diploma (written exam) as well as certificate (online<br />
exam) in IFRS, which one is more recognised and comprehensive?<br />
4. The terms of ACCA Diploma are that with initial registration fee<br />
one can give exams at the first or second available exam session<br />
following registration. So if i join before 15th Oct (which is the<br />
latest date for regn for Dec 08 exam), then can I sit for Jun 09 exam<br />
at my option or do i have to compulsorily sit for Dec 08 exam.<br />
5. The study materials costs GBP 275 for paper version (including<br />
postage) and GBP 200 for electronic, which one is better?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Deepak</p>
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<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>Both are unique in their own respect. Certification gives you an<br />
instant marketability.<br />
Thanks<br />
Puneet</p>
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<p>dear puneet &#8230; thanks</p>
<p>but from job market point of view do both have same creditabilty?</p>
<p>thanks<br />
deepak</p>
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<p>Hi everybody,<br />
I also found this institution offering Diploma in IFRS. Does anybody<br />
know how relevant it is and what&#8217;s the relationship with the<br />
ACCAglobal?<br />
<a href="http://www.ifconsultants.org/IFC_diploma_IFRS_Brochure.pdf">http://www.ifconsultants.org/IFC_diploma_IFRS_Brochure.pdf</a><br />
Thank you and regards,<br />
Martina</p>
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<p>I work for the Center for Professional Education and we are also<br />
offering a 5 day bootcamp. Below is the link. If anyone is interested<br />
in attending please let me know. I can arrange a discount for you as<br />
well. Thanks.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cpeonline.com/conf/bootcamp/agenda.asp">http://www.cpeonline.com/conf/bootcamp/agenda.asp</a></p>
<p>Janet</p>
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<p>Is this course been run only in the US as i am based in the UK and<br />
would be interested in attending this.</p>
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<p>Janet,<br />
Is there any such Boot camp for IFRS conducted in India!<br />
Regards<br />
Asif</p>


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well Esther the UK leads the path i.e. the UK tax authorities are the only ones in Europe which accept IFRS reporting to the extent that its website http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/ does have a section allocated to differences between IFRS and UK GAAP
I wish in Germany they had the same thing!!!!!







 

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Below is the list of applicable paragraphs from IAS 39 for measurement of loan impairment:
 




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<p>well Esther the UK leads the path i.e. the UK tax authorities are the only ones in Europe which accept IFRS reporting to the extent that its website <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/</a> does have a section allocated to differences between IFRS and UK GAAP</div>
<p>I wish in Germany they had the same thing!!!!!</p>
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<div><span><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;">Below is the list of applicable paragraphs from IAS 39 for measurement of loan impairment:</span></span></div>
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<td width="62" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>63</strong></span></td>
<td align="justify"><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>If there is objective evidence that an impairment loss on <span title="Non‑derivative financial assets with fixed or determinable payments that are not quoted in an active market, other than: those that the entity intends to..."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL134637" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">loans and receivables</span></a></span> or <span title="Non‑derivative financial assets with fixed or determinable payments and fixed maturity that an entity has the positive intention and ability to hold to..."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL134621" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">held-to-maturity investments</span></a></span> carried at <span title="The amount at which the financial asset or financial liability is measured at initial recognition minus principal repayments, plus or minus the cumulative..."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL134649" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">amortized cost</span></a></span> has been incurred the amount of the loss is measured as the difference between the asset&#8217;s carrying amount and the present value of estimated future cash flows (excluding future credit losses that have not been incurred) discounted at the <span title="Any asset that is: cash; an equity instrument of another entity;  a contractual right: to receive cash or another financial asset from another entity; or to..."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS32c_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL147175" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">financial asset&#8217;s</span></a></span> original effective interest rate (ie the effective interest rate<span> </span>computed at initial recognition). The carrying amount of the asset shall be reduced either directly or through use of an allowance account. The amount of the loss shall be recognized in profit or loss.</strong></span></td>
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<td colspan="99"><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>[Refer: </strong></span><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-4.html#SL32848" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000000; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>paragraphs AG84–AG93</strong></span></a><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>  </strong></span><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-6.html#SL131894" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000000; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>Implementation Guidance Questions E.4.3–E.4.7</strong></span></a><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>]</strong></span></td>
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<td width="62" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>64</strong></span></td>
<td align="justify"><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>An entity first assesses whether objective evidence of impairment exists individually for <span title="Any asset that is: cash; an equity instrument of another entity;  a contractual right: to receive cash or another financial asset from another entity; or to..."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS32c_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL147175" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">financial assets</span></a></span> that are individually significant, and individually or collectively for financial assets that are not individually significant</strong></span><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>. If an entity determines that no objective evidence of impairment exists for an individually assessed financial asset, whether significant or not, it includes the asset in a group of financial assets with similar <span title="The risk that one party to a financial instrument will cause a financial loss for the other party by failing to discharge an obligation."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IFRS07c_2005-08-18_en-4.html#SL144807" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">credit risk</span></a></span> characteristics and collectively assesses them for impairment. Assets that are individually assessed for impairment and for which an impairment loss is or continues to be recognized are not included in a collective assessment of impairment. </strong></span></td>
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<td colspan="99"><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>[Refer: </strong></span><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-4.html#SL32851" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000000; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>paragraphs AG87–AG92</strong></span></a><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong> - </strong></span><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-5.html#SL33012" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000000; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>Basis for Conclusions paragraphs BC111–BC124</strong></span></a><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>  - </strong></span><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-6.html#SL131916" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000000; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>Implementation Guidance Questions E.4.6 and E.4.7</strong></span></a><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>]</strong></span></td>
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<td align="justify"><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">If, in a subsequent period, the amount of the impairment loss decreases and the decrease can be related objectively to an event occurring after the impairment was recognized (such as an improvement in the debtor&#8217;s credit rating), the previously recognized impairment loss shall be reversed either directly or by adjusting an allowance account. The reversal shall not result in a carrying amount of the <span title="Any asset that is: cash; an equity instrument of another entity;  a contractual right: to receive cash or another financial asset from another entity; or to..."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS32c_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL147175" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">financial asset</span></a></span> that exceeds what the <span title="The amount at which the financial asset or financial liability is measured at initial recognition minus principal repayments, plus or minus the cumulative..."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL134649" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">amortized cost</span></a></span> would have been had the impairment not been recognized at the date the impairment is reversed. The amount of the reversal shall be recognized in profit or loss<span>.</span></span></span></strong></td>
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<td align="justify"><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>If there is objective evidence that an impairment loss has been incurred <span>[</span>on an unquoted <span title="A contract that evidences a residual interest in the assets of an entity after deducting all of its liabilities."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS32c_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL147211" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">equity instrument</span></a></span> that is not carried at <span title="The amount for which an asset could be exchanged, or a liability settled, between knowledgeable, willing parties in an arm's length transaction."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL134652" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">fair value</span></a></span> because its fair value cannot be reliably measured, or on a <span title="A financial instrument or other contract within the scope of IAS 39 (see paragraphs 2–7) with all three of the following characteristics: its value changes..."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL134592" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">derivative</span></a></span> asset that is linked to and must be settled by delivery of such an unquoted equity instrument, the amount of the impairment loss is measured as the difference between the carrying amount of the <span title="Any asset that is: cash; an equity instrument of another entity;  a contractual right: to receive cash or another financial asset from another entity; or to..."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS32c_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL147175" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">financial asset</span></a></span> and the present value of estimated future cash flows discounted at the current market rate of return for a similar financial asset (see </strong></span><a name="11c4d581d23b3723_A39-249"></a><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL33247" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000000; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>paragraph 46(c)</strong></span></a><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong> and </strong></span><a name="11c4d581d23b3723_SL205900"></a><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-4.html#SL32844" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000000; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>Appendix A paragraphs AG80 and AG81</strong></span></a><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">). Such impairment losses shall not be reversed.</span></span></strong></td>
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<td align="justify"><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>When a decline in the <span title="The amount for which an asset could be exchanged, or a liability settled, between knowledgeable, willing parties in an arm's length transaction."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL134652" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">fair value</span></a></span> of an <span title="Those non‑derivative financial assets that are designated as available for sale or are not classified as (a) loans and receivables, (b) held‑to‑maturity..."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL134646" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">available-for-sale financial asset</span></a></span> has been recognized directly in equity and there is objective evidence that the asset is impaired (see </strong></span><a name="11c4d581d23b3723_A39-250"></a><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL33260" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000000; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>paragraph 59</strong></span></a><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>), the cumulative loss that had been recognized directly in equity shall be removed from equity and recognized in profit or loss<span> </span>even though the <span title="Any asset that is: cash; an equity instrument of another entity;  a contractual right: to receive cash or another financial asset from another entity; or to..."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS32c_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL147175" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">financial asset</span></a></span> has not been <span title="The removal of a previously recognised financial asset or financial liability from an entity's balance sheet."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL134651" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">derecognized</span></a></span>. </strong></span></td>
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<td align="justify"><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>The amount of the cumulative loss that is removed from equity and recognized in profit or loss under </strong></span><a name="11c4d581d23b3723_A39-251"></a><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL33268" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000000; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>paragraph 67</strong></span></a><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong> shall be the difference between the acquisition cost (net of any principal repayment and amortization) and current <span title="The amount for which an asset could be exchanged, or a liability settled, between knowledgeable, willing parties in an arm's length transaction."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL134652" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">fair value</span></a></span>, less any impairment loss on that <span title="Any asset that is: cash; an equity instrument of another entity;  a contractual right: to receive cash or another financial asset from another entity; or to..."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS32c_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL147175" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">financial asset</span></a></span> previously recognized in profit or loss. </strong></span></td>
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<td align="justify"><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>Impairment losses recognized in profit or loss<span> </span>for an investment in an <span title="A contract that evidences a residual interest in the assets of an entity after deducting all of its liabilities."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS32c_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL147211" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">equity instrument</span></a></span> classified as <span title="Those non‑derivative financial assets that are designated as available for sale or are not classified as (a) loans and receivables, (b) held‑to‑maturity..."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL134646" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">available for sale</span></a></span> shall not be reversed through profit or loss.</strong></span></td>
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<td colspan="99"><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>[Refer: </strong></span><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-2.html#SL33195" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000000; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>Introduction paragraph IN22</strong></span></a><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong> - </strong></span><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-5.html#SL33026" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000000; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>Basis for Conclusions paragraphs BC125, BC126</strong></span></a><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>, </strong></span><a name="11c4d581d23b3723_F297302"></a><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-5.html#SL33030" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000000; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>BC129 and BC130</strong></span></a><strong><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"> </span></strong><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IFRIC10o_2006-07-13_en-1.html#SL408696" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000000; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>IFRIC 10</strong></span></a><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>]</strong></span></td>
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<td align="justify"><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Tahoma;"><strong>If, in a subsequent period, the <span title="The amount for which an asset could be exchanged, or a liability settled, between knowledgeable, willing parties in an arm's length transaction."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL134652" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">fair value</span></a></span> of a debt instrument classified as <span title="Those non‑derivative financial assets that are designated as available for sale or are not classified as (a) loans and receivables, (b) held‑to‑maturity..."><a href="http://eifrs.iasb.org/eifrs/stdcontent/A_Guide_through_IFRSs__2007/IAS39a_2005-08-18_en-3.html#SL134646" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000;">available for sale</span></a></span> increases and the increase can be objectively related to an event occurring after the impairment loss was recognized in profit or loss, the impairment loss shall be reversed, with the amount of the reversal recognized in profit or loss.</strong></span></td>
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If a company asks a third party to construct a fixed asset and at the end of the year, the fixed asset is not complete, but you have a statement of the costs incurred, would you capitalize the costs incurred under Construction in Progress with counterpart in accruals. Or would you record an entry only when it has been delivered to the company?
 
What IFRS would be applicable?
 
Thanks,
Isabelle



 


IFRS 16 would be applicable &#8220;Plant , Property and Equipemnt&#8221;
 
Recognisation -
Items of property, plant, and equipment should be recognised as assets when it is probable ...


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<div>If a company asks a third party to construct a fixed asset and at the end of the year, the fixed asset is not complete, but you have a statement of the costs incurred, would you capitalize the costs incurred under Construction in Progress with counterpart in accruals. Or would you record an entry only when it has been delivered to the company?</div>
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<div>What IFRS would be applicable?</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
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<div>IFRS 16 would be applicable &#8220;Plant , Property and Equipemnt&#8221;</div>
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<div>Recognisation -</div>
<div>Items of property, plant, and equipment should be recognised as assets when it is probable that: [IAS 16.7]</p>
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<li>the future economic benefits associated with the asset will flow to the enterprise; and</li>
<li>the cost of the asset can be measured reliably.</li>
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<div>Trust this clarifies your doubt.</div>
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<div>cheers</div>
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<div>Piyush</div>
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<div>It appears to be a fit case for off balance sheet item and accordingly IFRS related to OBS comes in picture.</div>
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<div>CMA Ashutosh</p>
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<div><span><span style="color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;"><strong>It should not be off balance sheet item, since both the criterion for capitalisation of an assets as mentioned in IAS 16( clause 16.7) are present in this case.</strong></span></span></div>
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<div><span><strong><span style="color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;">Please clarify  what is &#8216; IFRS related to OBS&#8217;</span></strong></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><span><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;">We are a telecommunications company providing a mobile network and it is common to have huge Work in Progress on the Balance sheet over year end.  Important though to establish contract in order for reward and risk to pass with the supplier or third party.  Have a look at IAS 16 for PP&amp;E.</span></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><span><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;">Regards</span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;">Vivianne </span></span></div>
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<div>IAS16 applicable for fixed assets in which ownership has passed on BUT here the case is different and ownership does not pass on until the site is completely handed over to the company. Ofcourse matter is to be decided with reference to the T&amp;C entered into or agreed with Third party.</div>
<div>What I feel it would be appropriate to disclose the actual position by way of an appropriate NOTE to the Balance Sheet of the Company.</div>
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<div>The relevant protion of IAS16 is reproduced below:</div>
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<p align="left">Property, plant and equipment</p>
<p><span style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT;">are tangible items that:</p>
<p align="left">(a) are <strong>held</strong> for use in the production or supply of goods or services, for rental to</p>
<p align="left">others, or for administrative purposes; and</p>
<p align="left">(b) are expected to be used during more than one period.</p>
<p align="left">The cost of an item of property, plant and equipment shall be recognised as an asset if,</p>
<p align="left">and only if:</p>
<p align="left">(a) it is probable that future economic benefits associated with the item will flow to</p>
<p align="left">the entity; and</p>
<p align="left">(b) the cost of the item can be measured reliably.</p>
<p align="left"><span style="background-color: #ffdfbf;">COMMENTS:</span></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="background-color: #ffdfbf;">The word is &#8216;held&#8217; which construed the possession of fixed assets in the hands of company or legally speaking the transfer of ownership. <strong>In the instant case neither the asset in question is in the possession of company nor the ownership in it has transferred to the company hence how it can be regarded as fixed asset at the moment</strong>, please clarify.</span></p>
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<p align="left">Thanks for all the comments.</p>
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<div>i would look at it the other way round, i.e. do i have to record a liability in my books and thus record an asset under Work in Progress.</div>
<div>At year-end, when I get the statement saying how much of the project has been completed, I have a binding obligation through the contract that was signed and thus should record a liability for the work completed up till year-end. The counterpart of this liability would be fixed asset/ Work in Progress.</div>
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<div>Does this make sense?</div>
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<p>What journal entry is suggested then, to record the payments made to the supplier? Just curious.</p></div>
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<div>The conclusion drawn appears sound.</div>
<div>Regards</div>
<div>CMA Ashutosh</p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: #1f497d;">Does the contract state that you pay in instalments ? If so I feel you need to recognize asset proportion to the amount you have paid for work already done.if nothing has been paid towards the contract then a note will be sufficient as  stated by Ashutosh.</span></p>
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<div dir="ltr"><span><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;">Yes, down payments to cover the period of installation and WIP capitalization takes place on the bits received in equipment and services delivered.  We are replacing our Core network as we speak over a period of 84 days.  It is also our year end 30 September.  Some of the equipment is still under the control of the Supplier (by agreement) as that specific phase will only be implemented around March 2009 and for that we don&#8217;t disclose anything as it is not our property yet.</span></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><span><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;">When we concluded the deal with the Supplier, we used DDU and took ownership of the equipment on delivery, hence IAS 16 applies.</span></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><span><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;">regards</span> </span></div>
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<hr /><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: #1f497d;">Dear Vivianne,</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: #1f497d;">Though I cant specifically quote an accounting standard, I feel you need to disclose by way of a note to your Financial statements ending 30t September 2008 ( under management commentary) with regard to equipment still with your suppliers.the information may be important to your stakeholder ( especially shareholders) who may want to know how there funds will be used in the near future.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: #1f497d;">Does this makes sense?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: #1f497d;">i am not yet an expert in financial statements but a student and so am just trying to see if my contributions can make sense.</span></p>
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<div>In fact my view primarily co-relates the sequence of events and therefore, accounting treatment would follow the same preposition:</div>
<div>Step1: Create the liability in your books for the payment due against the work completed,</div>
<div>Step2: Account for the WIP as an asset, the completed portion</div>
<div>Step3: Put down a NOTE in the Balance Sheet disclosing full contractual value and time limit estimated for completion with the coningency or other related factors as per T&amp;C agreed with.</div>
<div>Now the question of payment made or not made may accordingly be dealt with by simply passing the entries thru Vendor account.</div>
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<p>Dt CWIP (Asset) and Ct Supplier (liability) or in the case of Inventory Spares, Dt Inventory and Ct Supplier &#8211; sometimes, depending the case, the Equipment is held as Inventory iso CWIP.</p>
<p>Once final Commercial Acceptance is taken, we Ct CWIP and Dt Fixed Asset and start with Deprec &#8211; obviously by then the Supplier was paid.</p>
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<div dir="ltr"><span><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;">Yes a note makes perfectly sense, under the Post Balance Sheet review (subsequent events) in the report of the directors, in our case.  Even though we are a registered Limited company, we are non listed and then Financial Statement disclosures are not that stringent (or at least in my experience).</span></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><span><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;">Regards</span></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><span><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;">PS I think this is an excellent way of sharing international experience and subject knowledge!   Thanks to the site and everybody sharing!</span></span></div>
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<div>After all these emails, I have come to the following conclusion.</div>
<div>Under IFRS, a Company can record a Work in Progress with a corresponding liability at a period-end, if the following conditions are met:</div>
<div>1) there is an irrevocable agreement between the Company and the supplier</div>
<div>2) it is possible to measure the work done (i.e. a reliable estimate is possible)</div>
<div>3) it is clear that the item under construction at the supplier&#8217;s site belongs to the company (i.e. risks and rewards are borne by the COmpany).</div>
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<div>The items above are a combination of IAS 16 and IAS 37.</div>
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<div>Hi all,</div>
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<div>I would believe you will need to disclose in the Financial statements as:</div>
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<div>Capital commitments</div>
<div>Capital expenditure in respect of purchase of PPE &#8211; approved and contracted for.</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Sylvia</div>
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IAS was in use before the introduction of IFRS. With effect from the introduction of IFRS, only IAS before the introduction of IFRS is stil in use. Any other international standard that will be issued will now be IFRS but not IAS.
 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="gmail_quote"><span class="undefined"><span style="color: #080808;"><span style="color: #000000;">What are the diferences between the two accounting policies?</span><br />
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<div dir="ltr"><span><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;">IAS was in use before the introduction of IFRS. With effect from the introduction of IFRS, only IAS before the introduction of IFRS is stil in use. Any other international standard that will be issued will now be IFRS but not IAS.</span></span></div>
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<p><span lang="en-us"><span><strong></strong></span></span><span style="font-family: Arial;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">F<span>emi</span></span></span></span></p>
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<p></span></span></span></span><span style="font-family: Arial;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"></span></span></span>In my view except the change in nomenaclature there is no much difference in the basic strategy of the standardization process. Ofcourse prior to 2001 (1973-2001) IAS International Accounting Standards were used to be issued by the IASC (International Accounting Standards Committee) and subsequent to 2001 this task is being done by the IASB (International Accounting Standards Board) and given a refined name as IFRS.</p>
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What measures are being taken by UK&#8217;s ASB to bring UK GAAP into line with international standards?
What are the advantages of a closer international harmonization of accounting olicies for multi national companies and investors?





well Esther the UK leads the path i.e. the UK tax authorities are the only ones in Europe which accept IFRS reporting to the extent that its website http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/ does have a section allocated to differences between IFRS and UK GAAP
I wish in Germany they had the same thing!!!!!
 


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<div><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">What measures are being taken by UK&#8217;s ASB to bring UK GAAP into line with international standards?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">What are the advantages of a closer international harmonization of accounting olicies for multi national companies and investors?</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr">well Esther the UK leads the path i.e. the UK tax authorities are the only ones in Europe which accept IFRS reporting to the extent that its website <a href="http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/</a> does have a section allocated to differences between IFRS and UK GAAP</div>
<p>I wish in Germany they had the same thing!!!!!</p>
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investors increasingly make investment decisions on a worldwide basis,because businesses increasingly operate acrross national boundaries.Therefore investors need to compare the financial statements of companies operating in different countries.<br />
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear All ,
I need to attend IFRS classes , Do you know if there is any classes available in Dubai ( Not training sessions ) what i need is  any institute or University or anything else , have IFRS / IAS classes with certificate ( i repeat Not training conferences , by the way they are soooooo expensive i need something acceptable) not 4000 euro per day ( as they do in training programs )} 
Thanks for your help
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: sans-serif;">Dear All ,</span><br />
<span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: sans-serif;"><strong>I need to attend IFRS classes </strong>, Do you know if there is any classes available in <strong>Dubai </strong>( <strong>Not training sessions</strong> ) what i need is  any institute or University or anything else , have IFRS / IAS classes with certificate ( i repeat Not training conferences , by the way they are soooooo expensive i need something acceptable) not 4000 euro per day ( as they do in training programs )} </span></div>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: sans-serif;">Thanks for your help</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: sans-serif;">regards<br />
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<p>You can certification in IFRS through <a href="http://accaglobal.com/" target="_blank">accaglobal.com</a></p>
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<p>You can also look at the courses with examination styled certification from ICAEW through their website.</p>
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<p><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #0000ff; font-family: 新細明體;"><span>Tony,</span></span></p>
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #0000ff; font-family: 新細明體;"><span>I took a training course, and the instructor recommended for Certificate &amp; diplomas:</span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #0000ff; font-family: 新細明體;"><span>1. <a href="http://www.accaglobal.com/" target="_blank">www.accaglobal.com</a>: Association of Chartered Certified Accountants</span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #0000ff; font-family: 新細明體;"><span>on-line and open book; cost 100 pounds plus VAT; takes 20 hours of study; pass mark 50%; you get a certificate; diploma is also available but is tough</span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #0000ff; font-family: 新細明體;"></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #0000ff; font-family: 新細明體;"><span>2. <a href="http://www.icaew..com/ifrs" target="_blank">www.icaew..com/ifrs</a>: Institute of Chartered accountants in England and Wales</span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #0000ff; font-family: 新細明體;"><span>computer based but only in UK; takes 70 hours of study; pass mark 70%; diploma is also available</span></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #0000ff; font-family: 新細明體;"><span>For your refence,</span></span></div>
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Hi,</p>
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<div>Which one is easier then?</div>
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<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I am currently doing the Certification and I do not think it only requires 20 hours of studey as the website claims. But this must be true for professionals who have only worked in reporting financials all their working life. Rest of us who have had some reporting experience may require a detailed study lasting more than 20 hours. Anyhow, you get 3 attempts to pass and get the Certification but it is worth having it as it will really help your IFRS career.</p>
<p>Anyone out there working or available to do contract / consulting projects in US can contact me as well.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Puneet</p>
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<p>I was wondering if anyone received any traction in IFRS in the US. I&#8217;ve seen lots of international commentary, but not much on the US side. Is there a general consulting market out there in the states as of yet?</p>
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<p>Piyush,</p>
<div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I am in Houston, Texas and we are discussing about IFRS consultation and how to get certified if someone wants to work in IFRS reporting. One can become Certified IFRS after giving an online exam. You can get further information by going to <a href="http://accaglobal.com/" target="_blank">accaglobal.com</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please let me know about cost of create new web sit
will it be general expenses or intangible assets 
So, which treatment prefered to be confirmed to international accounting standard
 
thank you
 
Mahmoud Gbr
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General expense: if there is no link to future cash inflow through this 
 
Intangible asset: if satisfy the conditions of IAS 38 ..cash inflow, technical feasibility, intention, available market etc.
 
Thank you,
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Do you expect with relative certainty that the development of the new web will bring new cashflows to the company?



 
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<p>will it be general expenses or intangible assets </p>
<div>So, which treatment prefered to be confirmed to international accounting standard</div>
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<div>thank you</div>
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<p><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;">General expense: if there is no link to future cash inflow through this </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;">Intangible asset: if satisfy the conditions of IAS 38 ..cash inflow, technical feasibility, intention, available market etc.</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;">Thank you,</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;">Regards,</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;">Debdulal</span></span></p>
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<p><span><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;">Do you expect with relative certainty that the development of the new web will bring new cashflows to the company?</span></span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span>If yes-then it should be recognised as an asset</span></span></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span>If not-it is an expense and should be debited to the P&amp;L</span></span></span></span><span></span></div>
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I suggest that you refer to SIC 32 which was formulated to deal specifically with the subject matter in conjunction with IAS 38.</p>
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An office is located in a  bungalow, which is acquired on rent; the rent is paid in advance for a period of  1 year &#38; the agreement is revised at the end of the term. It is mutually  agreed that the bungalow will remain in the company&#8217;s possession for 5 – 8 years  at least. We had to build rooms on the roof top, my ...


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<p><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I need your suggestions &amp;  explanations on below stated matter. If possible, please suggest with references  of IAS.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">An office is located in a  bungalow, which is acquired on rent; the rent is paid in advance for a period of  1 year &amp; the agreement is revised at the end of the term. It is mutually  agreed that the bungalow will remain in the company&#8217;s possession for 5 – 8 years  at least. We had to build rooms on the roof top, my question is whether I should  charge it in the current year&#8217;s P&amp;L or should I capitalize it &amp;  depreciate it. </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">My concern is the benefit of this  construction is more than a period of one year. So I should capitalize it  but the conflict is; it is built on a building which is acquired on  rent.</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">B/Regards,</span></span></p>
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<p>Here we are talking of an operating lease and the relevant standard is IAS 17 Leases. Please also refer to IAS 40 Investment Property in case treatment of the operating lease can be covered as an investment property but the primary standard is IAS 17.</p>
<p>The prepaid rentals are to be amortised over the year into the p &amp; l. Regarding the leasehold improvements, these are to be capitalised and amortised over the remaining period of the lease as per the lease agreement. You would also need to consider a provision under IAS 37 for any restoration work required post the lease period. Any incentives received for the initial lease should be amortised to p &amp; l over the primary lease period.</p>
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<div class="Ih2E3d">I think acquiring a building is operating lease as Qs did not mention<br />
about subsequent ownership/ BPO even the lease term is also for short<br />
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<p>In case of operating lease all annual rental paid is charge to profit<br />
and loss<br />
Construction over leaase asset could be capitalized  as lease hold<br />
improvement and amortize over lease term<br />
Shabi</p>
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Dear Collegue,
How do we recognise the revenue in Building Construction company.
Illustrate with good/understandable example.
Can anybody focus on it ?
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Revenue to be recognized on the basis of percentage of completion POC  basis. If you got contract to built builiding for a some one than POC method may  suits you.

Actual  cost divided by Estimated cost and then multiply by estimated revenue to  recognized the portion of revenue recognised or if engineer can identify the  percentage of construction completed you can use than percentage to ...


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<p>How do we recognise the revenue in Building Construction company.</p>
<p>Illustrate with good/understandable example.</p>
<p>Can anybody focus on it ?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance</p>
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<div><span><span style="font-family: Arial; color: #0000ff; font-size: x-small;">Hi </span></span></div>
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<div><span><span style="font-family: Arial; color: #0000ff; font-size: x-small;">Revenue to be recognized on the basis of percentage of completion POC  basis. If you got contract to built builiding for a some one than POC method may  suits you.</span></span></div>
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<div><span><span style="font-family: Arial; color: #0000ff; font-size: x-small;">Actual  cost divided by Estimated cost and then multiply by estimated revenue to  recognized the portion of revenue recognised or if engineer can identify the  percentage of construction completed you can use than percentage to record  revenue.</span></span></div>
<p><strong><span style="font-family: TimesTen Roman; color: #0000ff; font-size: x-small;">SHABI </span></strong></div>
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Construction contracts are covered with IAS11.</p>
<p>For prudence remember to recognise the loss at once as expense, when you start to expect</p>
<p>such loss after completion the construction.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
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<p>Dear Zakariyya,</p>
<p>I suggest you IAS 11 with two alternatives treatments:</p>
<p>- to recgnize revenue only after completion</p>
<p>- to recognize revenue based on percent of advancement (completitude ratio).</p>
<p>If first treatment is obvious, for the second one I give one example:</p>
<p>eg:</p>
<p>a construction in amount of 100,000 in cost with the total selling price 120,000</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s assume that in the end of an accounting period (month, year) the completion of the pr<br />
oject is about 40% (that&#8217;s mean physical stage). The cost of the project may be 30,000, 40,000 or 50,000 depending of the project completion. That means to not mix physical completion with cost completion.</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s assume that for 40% physical completion ratio we register 45,000</p>
<p>We capitalize 45,000 and we accrued (45,000 / 100,000) x 120,000 = 54,000</p>
<p>In this respect we will match better the cost with revenues for the first period and also for next period.</p>
<p>I recommend this second method &#8211; otherwise the company seems to work for nothing in the first period; to not create any value added, that means a nonsens.</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Marian</p>
<p>Dear Hasan</p>
<p>Thanks for communication</p>
<p>Yes we have apply POC method</p>
<p>Any Quote fm IFRS / IAS</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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<div><span><span style="font-family: Arial; color: #0000ff; font-size: x-small;">Yes  immediate loss should be booked on onerous contracts (loss contracts) that is  When estimated cost is more than estimated revenue.</span></span></div>
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<p><span style="font-family: Arial;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">S<span>h</span>abi</span></span></span></div>
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 If provision for Bonus was taken in 2007 for X amount and financial statements for 2007 closed and reported , and in 2008 the payout of Bonuses was more than the provisions amount. As per IFRS , what is acceptable?? 
1- should we classify the over expensed amount as Prior year expenses ( is this accp as per IFRS )
2- should i expense this amount in 2008 ?
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<p><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: x-small;">Hi , </span><br />
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</span> <span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: x-small;">If provision for Bonus was taken in 2007 for X amount and financial statements for 2007 closed and reported , and in 2008 the payout of Bonuses was more than the provisions amount. As per IFRS , what is acceptable?? </span><br />
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: x-small;">1- should we classify the over expensed amount as Prior year expenses ( is this accp as per IFRS )</span><br />
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: x-small;">2- should i expense this amount in 2008 ?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: x-small;">I used to do this as prior year expenses , but i heard that as per IFRS now we should expense it in the payout period , can anyone confirm plz?</span></div>
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<p><strong><em><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size:10pt;">An entity shall adjust the amounts recognised in its   financial statements to reflect adjusting events after the balance sheet   date.</span></span></em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em></em></strong><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size:10pt;">The   following are examples of adjusting events after the balance sheet date that   require an entity to adjust the amounts recognised in its financial   statements, or to recognise items that were not previously recognised:</span></span><br />
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<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size:12pt;"> (d) the determination after the balance sheet date of the amount of profit-sharing or bonus payments, if the entity had a present legal or constructive obligation at the balance sheet date to make such payments as a result of events before that date (see <a href="http://eyaart.iweb.ey.com/iasb/lpext.dll?f=id&amp;id=1.1.10%5CIASB%3Ar%3A270c&amp;cid=1.1.10%5CIASB&amp;t=document-frame.htm&amp;an=JD_IAS-IAS19I&amp;2.0#JD_IAS-IAS19I%23" target="_blank">IAS 19</a> <span><em>Employee Benefits</em></span>).&#8221;</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Taking into consideration that the obligation to pay the bonuses is based on performance in 2007, the obligation in the Balance Sheet should reflect the correct amount.<br />
I would adjust.</span></p>
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<p>From what I understand, the accounts have been closed and reported and hence have already been authorised for issue. In this case the excess needs to be expensed this year with suitable disclosures in the profit and loss account and provisions movement for the current year.</p>
<p>Provisions are supposed to be best estimates based on current conditions but it appears to be a regular feature from your email to have prior year adjustments. Going forward, perhaps the basis for the provisions should be revised?</p>
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<p>&gt; statementsfor 2007 closed and reported , and in 2008 the payout of</p>
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<div>in general such amount should be expenses in the year 2008 since this is simply an error in the accounting estimate. while recording I think it should be considered whether the amount is material or not. If not material I propose you record in the general expense account. If materail then it is more appropriate to diclose separetly as &#8220;prior year expense&#8221;</div>
<div>regards</div>
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<div><span style="font-family: Arial; color: #0000ff; font-size: x-small;">Yes you can only adjust <span>this </span>in case the adjusting event is come to your knowlege before <span> </span>financial statement were issued.</span></div>
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As per the amended IAS 23, all borrowing costs on qualifying assets should be capitalised (no option to expense).
Does exchange differences on foreign currency loans qualify as borrowing costs to be capitalised?
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Hi Allan

To  my understanding any positive/negative FX difference is expensed directly to the P&#38;L.

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<p>Does exchange differences on foreign currency loans qualify as borrowing costs to be capitalised?</p>
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family: Arial;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">To  my understanding any positive/negative FX difference <span>is</span> expensed directly to the P&amp;L<span>.</span></span></span></span></div>
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atment is to expense.</p>
<p>The exchange differences on foreign currency should be included to assets under construction and therefore capitalised. After capitalisation of qualifying asset any exchange differences that may arise should expensed to P&amp;L.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
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<p>IAS 23.6 (e) continues to allow exchange differences arising from foreign currency borrowings to be capitalised as borrowing costs to the extent that they are regarded as an adjustment to interest costs. The same has not changed even under the improvements project.</p>
<p>From a practical aspect, you would need to determine how much of the exchange difference can be capitalised.This would be to the extent that the exchange difference represents an adjustment to the interest cost of the borrowings. You would need to find another local currency loan which could have been taken at the same time for the same purpose and based on that, work out how much of the borrowing cost can be capitalised.</p>
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<div><span><span style="font-family: Arial; color: #0000ff; font-size: x-small;">Foreign exchange is considered to be a part of financing cost.   Therefore Under allowed treatment of borrowing cost, foreign exchange  differences should be capitalized as borrowing cost.</span></span></div>
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I want to know the difference between IFRS and IAS.  As, there are IAS 1 to 41 standards already existing then why IFRS 1 to 8 was developed.
Secondly, are these two standards working parallel to each other or IAS is abondoned and now IFRS is working?
If someone could please guide me.Well I am &#8220;sorry&#8221; to ask a basis question from honourable members.
Sincerely,

Salman



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The second Q: yes they are parallel, as long as an IAS is not replaced by an IFRS it remains valid. Companies ...


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="Ih2E3d">Hi everyone</div>
<p>I want to know the difference between IFRS and IAS.  As, there are IAS 1 to 41 standards already existing then why IFRS 1 to 8 was developed.</p>
<p>Secondly, are these two standards working parallel to each other or IAS is abondoned and now IFRS is working?</p>
<p>If someone could please guide me.Well I am &#8220;sorry&#8221; to ask a basis question from honourable members.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
<span style="color: #888888;"><br />
Salman<br />
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<p><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;">See this link for the first question,</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"> </span></span><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Financial_Reporting_Standards" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Financial_Reporting_Standards</a></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;">The second Q: yes they are parallel, as long as an IAS is not replaced by an IFRS it remains valid. Companies also tend to refer to &#8216;complying with IFRS and IAS&#8217; but also only &#8216; complying with IFRS&#8217;.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"> </span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;">And by the way, there are no stupid questions, not asking is stupid,</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;">Kind regards,</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;">Henk </span></span></p>
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<p><em><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-style:italic;">I have lifted some part of the preface to IFRS… </span></span></em></div>
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<p><em><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-style:italic;"> </span></span></em></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:11pt;">&#8220;The <span>International Accounting Standards Board (</span>IASB) started operations in April 2001 as </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:11pt;">the successor to the International Accounting Standards Committee (IASC). The IASB is the </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:11pt;">standard-setting body of the IASC Foundation.<span style="color: #000080;"></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: #000080;"> </span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:11pt;">The IASB was preceded by the Board of IASC, which came into existence on 29 June 1973 as a result of an agreement by </span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:11pt;">professional accountancy bodies in Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Japan, Mexico, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom and </span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:11pt;">Ireland</span></span></span><span><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size:11pt;">, and the United States of America. A revised Agreement and Constitution were signed in November 1982. </span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:11pt;">The Constitution was further revised in October 1992 and May 2000 by the IASC Board. Under the May 2000 Constitution, </span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:11pt;">the professional accountancy bodies adopted a mechanism enabling the appointed Trustees to put the May 2000 Constitution into force. </span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:11pt;">The Trustees activated the new Constitution in January 2001, and revised it in March 2002.</span></span></span></p>
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<p><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:11pt;">All Standards and Interpretations issued</span></span></span></span><span><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size:11pt;"> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">under previous Constitutions continue to be applicable unless and until they are amended or withdrawn.</span> </span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:11pt;">The <strong><span style="font-weight:bold;">International Accounting Standards Board</span></strong> may amend or withdraw International Accounting Standards and </span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:11pt;">SIC Interpretations <strong><span style="font-weight:bold;">issued under previous Constitutions of IASC</span></strong> as well as issue new Standards and Interpretations.</span></span></span><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:11pt;">International Financial Reporting Standards (IFRSs) is the term used to indicate the whole body of IASB authoritative literature; and includes:</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:11pt;"><span style="float:left;">•</span></span></span></span><span><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size:11pt;"> <strong><span style="font-weight:bold;">IFRSs </span></strong>issued by the IASB;</span></span></span><span style="font-size: x-small;"></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:11pt;"><span style="float:left;">•</span></span></span></span><span><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size:11pt;"> International Accounting Standards <strong><span style="font-weight:bold;">(IASs)</span></strong> issued by the IASC, <strong><span style="font-weight:bold;">or revisions thereof</span></strong> issued by the IASB;</span></span></span><span style="font-size: x-small;"></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:11pt;"><span style="float:left;">•</span></span></span></span><span><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size:11pt;"> <strong><span style="font-weight:bold;">Interpretations</span></strong> of IFRSs and IASs developed <strong><span style="font-weight:bold;">by the IFRIC and approved for issue by the IASB</span></strong>; and</span></span></span><span style="font-size: x-small;"></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:11pt;"><span style="float:left;">•</span></span></span></span><span><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size:11pt;"> <strong><span style="font-weight:bold;">Interpretations</span></strong> of IASs developed <strong><span style="font-weight:bold;">by the SIC and approved for issue by the IASB or IASC</span></strong>.<em><span style="font-style:italic;"> &#8221;</span></em></span></span></span></div>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear all,
Could someone help me with guidelines on
setting up an internal audit department which
none existed before.
 
Or refer me to the necessary IAS
Many Thanks
 
 





Kindly visit www.theiia.org
You could download the IIA standards/frameworks and other materials/guidance 
or professional help you will need.



 
 
Dear James,




I would be difficult to send an procedural guidelines on setting up internal audit departement as we need to look at various areas of operation. Every company has and works under different dynamics.
 
Daya


iam an internal ausditoe having 25 years of internasl auditing exposure




 





		
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Dear all,</div>
<div>Could someone <span>help</span> me with guidelines on</div>
<div>setting up an internal audit department which</div>
<div>none existed before.</div>
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<div>Or refer me to the necessary IAS</div>
<p>Many Thanks<br />
 </p>
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<p><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;">Kindly visit <a href="http://www.theiia.org/" target="_blank">www.theiia.org</a></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;">You could download the IIA standards/frameworks and other materials/guidance </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: #000080; font-family: Arial;">or professional help you will need.</span></span></p>
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<div>I would be difficult to send an procedural guidelines on setting up internal audit departement as we need to look at various areas of operation. Every company has and works under different dynamics.</div>
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<p>iam an internal ausditoe having 25 years of internasl auditing exposure</p></div>
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